tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post5444543378380916815..comments2023-03-27T10:54:13.350-07:00Comments on Winston Smith: He Don't Need No EducationWinstonSmith33http://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-85560576854715568792011-08-09T05:27:13.794-07:002011-08-09T05:27:13.794-07:00I was wondering about something. How widespread is...I was wondering about something. How widespread is this criminal/violent culture in Britain? I had the impression, from this blog and elsewhere, that it perhaps affects about 2% of the population?<br /><br />However, the widespread looting/burning pictures in London seem like scenes from Afghanistan. Is the culture of violence more prevalent than i think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-61822329898356654272011-08-09T02:29:20.092-07:002011-08-09T02:29:20.092-07:00And those chickens are currently coming home to ro...And those chickens are currently coming home to roost!Oswald Bastablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828229103486326473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-10423138096041829002011-08-08T04:54:54.514-07:002011-08-08T04:54:54.514-07:00@Strangerheremyself:
Unsolicited opinions, as you...@Strangerheremyself:<br /><br />Unsolicited opinions, as you call them, are welcome here, as are views that diverge from my own. The only thing that I ask people to do is refrain from openly abusive and hostile language. Healthy debate and disagreement welcome and hopefully people are open minded to new evidence. However, from some of the contributors on here you can see this is not the case. WinstonSmith33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-28634879443053429422011-08-07T06:53:24.342-07:002011-08-07T06:53:24.342-07:00Anonymous@5/8/11:02:46: my comment explicitly resp...Anonymous@5/8/11:02:46: my comment explicitly responded to Outreacher and ilk's condescension to us working class, arrogantly dismissing us as Daily Mail readers (used as insult it implies that the target is uneducated, stupid, etc.). I challenge you to find any post by Outreacher et al that offers arguments of substance instead of insults and fatuous remarks.<br /><br />I oblige no-one to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-76111680483988340552011-08-07T04:57:54.560-07:002011-08-07T04:57:54.560-07:00@Outreacher
It is facile, patronising and childis...@Outreacher<br /><br />It is facile, patronising and childish to assume that everyone who disagrees with you is a right wing Daily Mail reader. Also, so far, this appears to be your only defence and it is dull. Are you incapable of addressing the issues and examples cited by other commenters here? <br /><br />It strikes me that you may be as close minded as those here that you criticise, simply Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-62900763860655132212011-08-06T12:10:08.607-07:002011-08-06T12:10:08.607-07:00@CONFUSED
Whilst I have links to Peter Hitchens a...@CONFUSED<br /><br />Whilst I have links to Peter Hitchens and Guido it doesnt mean I share all of their views I also have links to Christopher Hitchens, Nick Cohen and the Guardian. Personally, I keep an open mind and judge each issue on the merits of the evidence presented to me. I dont come at an issue from my predetermined political bias (I used to). Like you I am socially liberal but there WinstonSmith33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-91329207391582737842011-08-06T09:25:05.141-07:002011-08-06T09:25:05.141-07:00I have been honoured to work with Winston, I can t...I have been honoured to work with Winston, I can tell you first hand what he says is true, Young Offenders are treated to days out, activities including gym, boxing classes climbing wall and horse riding the thing us honest working people cannot afford for there kids. No wonder you see the same faces year after year, there are no conciquences for there actions and the majority do not want to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-67980093086185435822011-08-06T05:07:15.610-07:002011-08-06T05:07:15.610-07:00As someone who considers himself quite left wing, ...As someone who considers himself quite left wing, sometimes stupidly left wing, I thought your book was a bloody good read. Whats mad is that I only picked it up after putting Chavs by Owen Jones down after being slightly disappointed. Saw your book, saw the name (winston smith, you internet geeks love that bloke) and a quick look and I was hooked. Whilst the daily mail does gives the book thumbsconfusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-33601631462183712362011-08-05T02:46:59.169-07:002011-08-05T02:46:59.169-07:00To StrangerHereMyself
People might be ignoring th...To StrangerHereMyself<br /><br />People might be ignoring the information you provide because they’re not clear on the point you are making. What do you think the crime statistics from 1898 or the story of Lily Lilley tell us? What do you derive from your reading of the statistics? People can’t respond to an argument that has no conclusion. I think you’re claiming that the rise in crime is due Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-17052948223558485732011-08-04T11:49:48.218-07:002011-08-04T11:49:48.218-07:00Hi Winston,
I fully agree with you that
1. Promot...Hi Winston,<br /><br />I fully agree with you that<br />1. Promoting unhealthy lifestyles through overfeeding and lack of exercise<br />2. Depriving children of a proper upbringing by setting no boundaries<br /><br />is just as abusive as (or perhaps 80% as in the first case and 120% as in the second case)<br />1. Insufficient food<br />2. Setting too strict boundaries<br /><br />I'm just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-60602398838524284252011-08-03T14:34:22.808-07:002011-08-03T14:34:22.808-07:00Eventually prison will claim him.
I have always fe...Eventually prison will claim him.<br />I have always felt that a sentance should be a practical one. For example you will go to prison for as long as it takes you to learn to read etc etc. Prison would have none of the frills it would however have the necessary facilities to allow individuals to complete such a sentance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-14528375282551416242011-08-03T12:49:20.919-07:002011-08-03T12:49:20.919-07:00"However instead of constantly judging I will...<i>"However instead of constantly judging I will empower them with a sense of self worth."</i><br /><br />You can't give someone self-worth. It's SELF-worth.LSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-91842877455503962882011-08-02T05:09:05.255-07:002011-08-02T05:09:05.255-07:00As I wrote: naught but insult, misrepresentation a...As I wrote: naught but insult, misrepresentation and distraction; no attempt to rebut any argument presented; no attempt to provide any sources to support their views.<br /><br />Opportunities I take for granted, Outreacher? What opportunities would these be, my privileged bourgeois university-educated friend? Only a belated realisation that the only way I was going to sort my life out was to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-38773808735594938712011-08-01T14:01:56.082-07:002011-08-01T14:01:56.082-07:00Let's all stay hopeful and try to find solutio...Let's all stay hopeful and try to find solutions rather than trying to tear people to pieces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-10200548440320385162011-07-31T15:19:33.672-07:002011-07-31T15:19:33.672-07:00I agree with StrangerHereMyself. His views on crim...I agree with StrangerHereMyself. His views on crime and punishment are well informed, tightly argued and entirely logical. He's clearly a visionary. The idea that birching children is somehow unacceptable is political correctness gone made. Whip some sense into em that's what I say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-26370223063356158842011-07-31T09:46:15.381-07:002011-07-31T09:46:15.381-07:00Wow. Some of the vitriolic rhetoric from the react...Wow. Some of the vitriolic rhetoric from the reactionary right-wing commenters is just staggering.<br /><br />I am the one who has decided to dedicate my life to helping underprivileged people and yet *I* am the the one who is "really evil" and "ghastly"?<br /><br />I am the one who wishes to help these unfortunate unsupported victims of modern society, rather than lock them Outreachernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-48583411562270573692011-07-31T05:07:07.485-07:002011-07-31T05:07:07.485-07:00The various anonymous liberals above, who are not ...The various anonymous liberals above, who are not 'left wing' in any meaningful sense, argue poorly: little more than insult, misrepresentation, distraction and repetition--casually dismissing arguments, fixating on minutiae to divert the other party to the detriment of the wider argument, and repeating points already rebutted. The poverty of what passes for their arguments suggests theirAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-24871401719810516032011-07-30T12:16:48.071-07:002011-07-30T12:16:48.071-07:00@Anonymous direct above
I do expect them to make ...@Anonymous direct above<br /><br />I do expect them to make changes straight away. It only takes a decision to stop robbing and/or being a violent nuisance in the community.<br /><br />I dont write everyone off straight away if you took the time to read my blog posts you would have read my views on what I have termed loveable and unloveable rogues.WinstonSmith33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-47881940926300402242011-07-29T15:58:28.777-07:002011-07-29T15:58:28.777-07:00I too expect people to take responsibility for the...I too expect people to take responsibility for themselves, but believe this is possible without being derogatory about those who struggle to do so. Winston does nothing to help young offenders as he expects them to be ready to make changes in there lives as soon as he meets them. If he was skilled at at his job he'd be able to gradually inspire some aspiration in them instead of instantly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-42086964116406931252011-07-29T15:31:47.230-07:002011-07-29T15:31:47.230-07:00Could the "anonymous"es not come up with...Could the "anonymous"es not come up with a nom-de-keyboard for the purpose? I have often wished to reply to an "anonymous" but then doscover that another several "anonymouses" have posted diametrically opposite views sraight after.<br /><br />To one Anon, if our country bangs them up at an earlier age then surely that's becase either they offend at an earlier ageLilyofthefieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-91169301025373154032011-07-29T08:46:30.226-07:002011-07-29T08:46:30.226-07:00@Outreacher and the anonymous cowards above.
Altr...@Outreacher and the anonymous cowards above.<br /><br />Altruism and idealism are all well and good but they need to be tempered with the scourging fire of practicality. <br /><br />The reality is that folks like Noel and the other people mentioned on this blog will never amount to anything unless they help themselves. Winston et al are trying (very trying) to help them but at the end of the day Zenobianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-79582565810431664872011-07-29T08:17:27.672-07:002011-07-29T08:17:27.672-07:00QUOTE FROM ABOVE: "I assume you feel it's...QUOTE FROM ABOVE: "I assume you feel it's ok to be derogatory about people on the grounds of their race if you don't do so in front of their faces? Perhaps we can have a laugh at the expence of disabled people. Or indulge any other prejudice we might have so long as it's behind the backs of our targets."<br /><br />As I abhor racism and prejudice against disabled people I WinstonSmith33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-10909781449626961752011-07-29T07:49:43.745-07:002011-07-29T07:49:43.745-07:00I assume you feel it's ok to be derogatory abo...I assume you feel it's ok to be derogatory about people on the grounds of their race if you don't do so in front of their faces? Perhaps we can have a laugh at the expence of disabled people. Or indulge any other prejudice we might have so long as it's behind the backs of our targets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-47789347317185432772011-07-29T06:49:31.627-07:002011-07-29T06:49:31.627-07:00Anonymous said...
"I have no problem with yo...Anonymous said... <br />"I have no problem with you calling someone who behaves a criminally a criminal Winston. However, describing over weight children in care as lardy, morbidly rotund, Jabba the hut, little elephant, delinquent hippos and behemoth is both insulting and moronic.<br /><br />I wouldn't worry too much about your future career prospects as you'll never go broke WinstonSmith33https://www.blogger.com/profile/15780806194174659730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5224377669164135329.post-24392400138763308502011-07-29T03:03:31.817-07:002011-07-29T03:03:31.817-07:00It’s not middle class liberals you need to fight a...It’s not middle class liberals you need to fight against in pursuit of social justice. Those that own the majority of wealth and hold the balance of power and are the real enemy if you are talking from a perspective of political struggle. <br /><br />Single mother’s in council houses are another easy target to blame for all our social problems, but again this fallacious. The state could “Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com